Perturbations on natural discourse of 'polite' discussions of American Society since the 1960's (2024)

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Post by tooly
All through the 70's, 80's, and 90's...anyone identifying with the foundations of the country surely had to sense a great 'flow' leaning LEFTWARD in how the media depicted the land. Was it true? Or invented for political reasons of those wanting to 'change' the land [the culture] toward their way of seeing things, ultimately anti-Foundational.
Wonder filled the minds of many of us. What is this? How is it taking place? Who was behind it? That profound 'bias' and quite, often unreal, depiction to what we were, how we saw, and what was going on. It was essentially only a 'bias'...not so much the factual content of the news, but more the innuendo of how it was being reported; who were the bad guys vs. the good guys, what WE, the viewer SHOULD see, how WE should think. And mostly NOT how we did see and think. Centered on non-traditional women, agitated minority think soup, and anything anti-American foundational value...a slow creep of 'hatred' for what we were, are, and to be, was somehow being instilled into our mentality. That is, for those who 'bought' into that soup.
But who was to question the NEWS? The 'officialdom' of CBS, NBC, or ABC...or CNN etc?
For those aware [millions of us, and arguably the great majority that stood silent as they say]...Something was amiss; foul; the LIBERALISM was not just a 'lean' toward world events, but more, like an assailant of mind, here to retrain us; to make us think in a certain way that most of us did not naturally identify with.
Pat Buchanan wrote a book in the 1990's. It helped identify what was going on. Communism was here to invoke it's mind upon us all; TO change us; TO make us ready for...well...today's Democratic Party.

War of the Worlds
In speilberg's remake of HG Well's classic sci fi novel, an army of alien machines suddenly rise up from the ground beneath us, planted there many years ago, 'waiting' silently for that right moment when the machines could be manned, and war unleashed upon our world [actually, a grand harvest of a food supply].
It was a great read, and better even as movies [even with Spielberg's artistic privilege]...where one has to suspend imagination only a bit to entertain the 'tactic'. Buried machines from long ago? It seemed to work.
It seems appropriate that in the end, a little microbe was the alien race's undoing, while humans were helpless against the machines.
Today, a new microbe takes the scene in real time, and in abstract association, there is an uncanny resemblance of this Pandemic and War of the Worlds. But understand, one has to go back in time; to ages when opportunity might have existed where 'alien' factions could PLANT things beneath our very 'eyes'...in our schools, our media, our educational institutions...that could someday 'ripen' to become an 'army' that could RISE from the land itself, and declare war upon our foundations. This...the American Foundation; that bastion of free world thought that has supplemented an entire western world to levels of prosperity and human achievement that could only be envied by her enemies, but never reproduced. Nor defeated.
Or could it...
The CCP
People are smart. Given a problem, surely some sort of solution can always be designed; connived. For the Chinese Communist Party, the flag bearer of a waning push in the world for communist domination, the problem was two fold. first of course, how to fight an enemy that it could not really fight and win...at least not militarily. Of course, the second problem was a matter of the first problem, the domination that it so wanted but could never have; at least as long as America survived. Influence was to take time.
It was given in strategic backrooms to China's military leaders to 'brainstorm' ways that the USA might be defeated; not so much on the battlefield [that would be messy and probably with bad outcome for CHina]...but to come up with INNOVATIVE ideas on how to win the world. A 'no holds barred' strategem that went off radar of normal human sanctity. After all, as the true marxist ideology suggests, 'all means justify the end' to communism. Does it not?
"Hmm...", sayeth the CCP general scratching his head, "ok, so bombs and guns are out", realizing that normal path was a dead end given the military might of the west. "Well, how about something else to bring the west down? You know, something we could mostly control...but silent, invisible even, that undermined the west while we prevailed"? Of course, the general was surmising the possibility of germ warfare, something that most sane humans had dismissed long ago as too dangerous. Even Chemical warfare would not be as messy and uncontrollable. "Hmmm", the general continues to think, "Ok, dangerous...but what about something not too dangerous, but that could make the west 'shut down'...just to be safe...then we could strike!", the general's eyes lighting up a bit realizing he might be on to something, for he knew of something being studied in virus labs and namely in their Wuhan lab of virology. "A Virus", he thought, "Yes, one that gives ARDS, that could be survivable by most people, but enough sickness to cause a shut down"..."Yes, that Wuhan lab and the bat lady had just such a virus didn't it", he thought. "And the bat lady had found a way to "gain function" and transmit to humans"...
Now one must understand, Trump was a dangerous development to the CCP. He was stonewalling their attempt to rise economically to world domination by holding their feet to the fire on things like patent infringement and unfair trade practices that was undermining western manufacturing. China had a near free hand for decades in it's slow climb to be supplier to the consumer west. It was a great strategy, though slow, and like any supplier, the 'addict' eventually becomes beholding; at the mercy of it's supply. Add to this the purchasing of rising debt in the west...and it was only a matter of time that China would essentially "OWN" America.
But along comes this Trump guy...and lo and behold, in a few years, makes this path to glory all too unlikely with his 'MAGA' campaign. He's willing to forgo temporary 'near term' prosperity, for sake of long term...well...survival.
"We can't let this happen', surely some CCP general or bigwig state department guy was saying. "We need some way to counter this; to stop Trump, to STOP the west and save our path to that glory and world domination".
Desperation probably was setting in. An agitated public probably would not entertain totalitarian governance for many more decades...especially if power and influence might be SHUNTED with Trump influencing the world to 'fight back'...and stop this insurgence of China. Somehow, the world had closed it's eyes to the fact that CHINA was that CCP. And China's prosperity was quite aligned with COMMUNIST influences across the world. Most people were thinking 'evolution'...where free markets and command economics could somehow 'evolve' to some middle ground...where capitalism could function within totalitarian regimes and visa versa as some form of Democratic socialism. Few realized that capitalism was only being entertained by Communist factions, not as a relinquish of control, but as a 'tactic' that someday could lead to their INFLUENCE...and eventual 'takeover' from the very inside of the culture of western civilization.
"Stay silent, invisible...hidden beneath the groundworks of western thought", perhaps was unsaid strategy. And so it was, that the Alien race stood silent, waiting patiently to strike when the moment was ripe.
This is only a facsimile of a broadcast meant for entertainment. The Martians have not really landed. The CCP? Now that might be another story altogether?
Enter Black Lives Matter, Antifa, and the Democrat Party...

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Women Carry the Day
Who could have known of the unyielding power a Carrie Nation was unleashing. Looking back from today, it seems almost unholy that women were once not allowed to vote. It carries over to the incrimination of our foundations, and cements a political bond to minorities or anyone having some grievance from our early days. Separately, perhaps none of these grieving voices would have enough political clout to FORCE things [as they might see]...
...but women; they cross all IDENTITIES...all groups, all factions, all voices...to make up clearly half [at least] of what we are. Combine women with all the factions ready to burn us down...and one begins to understand the dire straights we find ourselves in.
Today, women outnumber men on college campuses and they are nearing to be the majority of our workforce. Rush calls it the 'chick-a-fication' of society. As far as equality goes, it surely would seem to be a 'good' thing, bringing mere fractions of social position into more favorable position for everyone. But it can be argued, women see things differently than men; and when in positions of power [as an influence, say on city councils, or governance of any kind], well, they might just 'defund the police'.[sic]
But is EQUALITY really EQUAL?
The complexity of nature is often beyond our rational sense. Kill off wolves and deer take over the woodlands, destroying certain vegetation, rabbits that feed off some plants decline...and the whole forest could degrade. We've learned such 'relationships' in nature since environmentalism took off in a raised consciousness dating at least back to the 1950's. Simple solutions do not always equate to 'real solutions'. We've learned that nature exists with a delicate BALANCE. The rise or demise or 'disempowerment or empowerment' of one thing can lead to an entire scope of repercussions to an entire ecology [or perhaps society].
The prohibition surely was a 'simple' solution to stop the bad effects of alcohol. But the repercussions far outweighed the benefits and black markets led to gangland crime syndicates that still haunt us even today. One thing we've learned in economics is that when humans try to invoke control on markets, it almost always results in 'lost resources'; in inefficiency...and ultimately to a lesser 'economic outcome' than if we just allow things to work naturally [without interference].
LBJ wanted to help the poor of this country [which largely was black during his administration]. He incorporated a plan called THE Great Society, that set us on an attempt to solve poverty with social welfare...free give-aways from government. A single woman could gain income by the number of children she was raising [with no father around]...which became an incentive to not marry. As a result of LBJ's Great Society, the black community suffered a great loss of central core 'family-hood' and children born out of wedlock rose to over 70%. This created fatherless families, and kids on the streets that led into unwholesome 'street' behaviors like gangs, drugs, and a certain anti-civil behavior that carries over even to today. Much of the looting, rioting, and general incivility can possibly be traced back to this well meant policy of social welfare...that destroyed much of the family unit for the black community.
Environment and ecology; economic efficiencies; what else could we garner from such observations? When we try and control nature...is the complexity beyond our capacity to understand completely and bad outcomes always the case? Perhaps not always of course. But it does provide us with a rational basis to 'question' ourselves, even in our most diligent moral intentions to 'control' things for the betterment of us all.
We try. We learn. But when it becomes politically INcorrect to question...then do we lose that ability to adjust; to control as we go...and perhaps put us on a path of 'no return'?
Political 'correctness' has become a FORCE to silence TRUTH today. Today our own Democrat Party has become infiltrated by those leaning so far LEFT they no longer can really be American as defined by our forebears and creators. That 'correctness' is all based upon 'equality'; a value we raise high to ourselves and by right, seek to bring all in accordance to moral dictate that no one be left out of our great experiment on the planet [and yes, it is still an experiment; one of freedom first]. But equality is now drowning out our higher value...to where FREEDOM itself now is in danger [just as it becomes in most all socialist experiments, and most decidedly under communism].
But today, that 'correctness' has become a political ploy that re-embraces the fundamentals of communism, which is essentially to redistribute wealth...'from those by ability, to those by need'. Equality taken far beyond a muster of moral giving, to now become a weapon spewed back upon America to destroy those foundations of FREEDOM. "Take a Knee" we are now told is the way to go; to incriminate FREEDOM for reason of the inequities it creates.
http://youtu.be/jJnShBMG3uY
Above link is to the speech given by Maximo Alvarez at the GOP convention. It is just one man, anecdotal of course. But it is enough to remind of the monster's maw that we now put our heads into called 'marxist socialism'.
The MYTH of the Toxic Male
Men are territorial by nature. Women...not so much. Such observation is relatively easy to see, going back to our cave days, and the roles each gender surely played. As Mammals, nurture is perhaps our second [maybe first] greatest advantage among the creatures of this world. We suckle our young, nurture and put a great deal of investment into each individual. It has allowed us to develop a thing called empathy over time; where consideration for others becomes a social fabric by which we gather and evolve. It is also perhaps root of our greatest truisms, where things like FREEDOM and EQUALITY have grown into our consciousness.
But a question perhaps arises at this late date of involvement with that empathy...which should prevail as our HIGHEST value? Freedom or Equality? Can either become 'justification' to erradicate the other? Under socialism, YES. Totalitarianism is not just a possibility under socialism; it is an IDENTITY; it is part of what socialism IS. A FEW telling the MANY how to be.
If one is honest to their own intelligent integrity, one might see that these two central core values are what exist beneath world struggle...one to the east the other to the west. In the west, America was that bastion that held FREEDOM as that highest value, even to tolerate some inequality. In the recent east, a great experiment took place to place EQUALITY as that highest value...and communism was born. We found however, that communism did not cater to natural behaviors of humans, and productivity fell off [not to mention the oppression people felt]. Communism, even though designed to make all humans as equal as possible, it also curtailed FREEDOM to the point of nullifying individual incentive in a big way. Force was needed to keep productivity up...but even that failed to simple create mandatory productivity just for maintenance of infrastructure.
Socialism cannot compete with capitalism as an ECONOMIC viability. Socialism's ONLY arguement is a social one; to make people more equal [by outcome].
Today, China and some other smaller countries, still hold on to the political structure of communism [essentially totalitarianism or total central control of Humans] but relinquish 'some control' to entertain 'some' FREE MARKETS. It has worked to allow productivity to at least compete in the world [and in a big way]. But China remains totalitarian. Goverment there exerts control for political reasons; to bolster strategic industries for domination...not free marketing. Today, for example, China 'owns' the solar industry; which begs to be a leading industry of our future.
In the west, the inequalities that FREEDOM entertained in our founding, has become a political steamplow; a way to power that the LEFT has gained more and more control...conjoling to a 'moral society' how immoral inequality has been. The idea of political correctness had been a slow invocation of that gained power to wrest away control...in small bites, leading up to...well, Black Lives Matter, antifa, WOKE, and any number of smaller factions, all based upon gaining more POWER for their particular group [to the FORCED dictate of governmment over the whole].
Kill the wolves, the deer destroy the forest...
BALANCE is the answer of course. Rush today [fri] speaks of how males today have become lost to their own masculinity. TOXICITY rises in the mentality of maledom like a invisible electrified fence that makes a male question his very existence. No one wants to be toxic. But should I be more female to NOT be toxic?
Some twenty something female called in to Rush, responding to his topic, and said how 'males' of her age on campus seemed 'wimpy'...more trying to impress with how smart they were, but unable to cater to simple 'strength' or simply being masculine. So, she said she had to seek a relationship with a 40 something guy...someone who still catered to being a 'man'?
There is no doubt men have been under attack for decades now...and a slow emasculation has been taking place. Kill the wolves and Black Lives Matter might be taking over the forests; or the DEER knocking off and taking your 9 year-old kid's MAGA hat and kicking it down the street. If territory is not respected, it can only mean there is no one around to protect it.
As an optimist, one might revisit John Paul Jone's words...where he is asked if he is ready to surrender, and replies, 'Sir, I have not yet begun to fight'[sic paraphrased].

Post by Arindam Banerjee

All through the 70's, 80's, and 90's...anyone identifying with the foundations of the country surely had to sense a great 'flow' leaning LEFTWARD in how the media depicted the land. Was it true? Or invented for political reasons of those wanting to 'change' the land [the culture] toward their way of seeing things, ultimately anti-Foundational.

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Wonder filled the minds of many of us. What is this? How is it taking place? Who was behind it? That profound 'bias' and quite, often unreal, depiction to what we were, how we saw, and what was going on. It was essentially only a 'bias'...not so much the factual content of the news, but more the innuendo of how it was being reported; who were the bad guys vs. the good guys, what WE, the viewer SHOULD see, how WE should think. And mostly NOT how we did see and think. Centered on non-traditional women, agitated minority think soup, and anything anti-American foundational value...a slow creep of 'hatred' for what we were, are, and to be, was somehow being instilled into our mentality. That is, for those who 'bought' into that soup.

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But who was to question the NEWS? The 'officialdom' of CBS, NBC, or ABC...or CNN etc?

Post by Arindam Banerjee

For those aware [millions of us, and arguably the great majority that stood silent as they say]...Something was amiss; foul; the LIBERALISM was not just a 'lean' toward world events, but more, like an assailant of mind, here to retrain us; to make us think in a certain way that most of us did not naturally identify with.
Pat Buchanan wrote a book in the 1990's. It helped identify what was going on. Communism was here to invoke it's mind upon us all; TO change us; TO make us ready for...well...today's Democratic Party.

Americans among all others will get properly civilised when they all read and properly internalise my book "The Son of Hiranyaksh". It is by far the greatest work in English Literature; and a permanent in world literature: the equivalent of the Mona Lisa. It will raise entire populations to unreachable heights. It is present in my facebook timeline, along with the annotations, posted in 2019.
https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/
It is also for sale in amazon but please do not buy it there. I have not got a single cent from them, but got threats from the US tax office instead! All, avoid buying the book online, and read it along with my comments at my facebook page.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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Post by Arindam Banerjee

I think rank opportunists took over after the murder of JFK. Carter was the one exception since. But then, some of my friends seem to think that the Potus is but a puppet. I don't know. There is so much talk about the Deep State with sinister characters pulling strings.
Question is - is your two party system really working? Does it allow good people to come up and lead the nation?

This sounds familiar. The Brahmins and the Hindu higher castes have been held as the biggest villains by the Indian media ever since India got independence.
So I can understand that the same sort of vilifiers are at work again this time in USA.

Social media is the ONLY antidote publicly. Then grapevine, direct contacts, etc.
These days one gets the public and real opinion from the comments in youtube;

No, it is only the Democrat elites who want to grab power somehow. They want to make Trump look bad, and do everything they can for that to happen. I do hope the US population sees through their totally vile strategies.
Unfortunately it is highly sane, though equally evil.
It brings into question the very basis of democracy - what happens when the elites of the parties become totally amoral, corrupt, clannish, dynastic, etc. And not just in USA, everywhere.
A one party system like in China (and Russia effectively) controlled the pandemic, treats corrupt people severely, has no use for any kind of rebellion... Yes it is bad in many ways, but is it really all that much worse than your current treacherous system? Frankly, I would rather live in Vietnam or even China rather than the modern US. I mean, it looks really stupid out there, far from what it was when I visited in 1987.
So it is that for decades I have held Asimov in the highest regard in the political sphere. There has to be rule by robots for real progress. I call it superpolitics, where correct and relevant public opinion is channeled into policy by robots, who also monitor and control progress.
It may have been a fancy in A's time, but now perfectly possible.

People's emotions are in tethers already; mass unemployment, forced behaviors that are unnatural, no outlets for gatherings [concerts, sports events, theaters, you name it...all shut down; travel industry destroyed]...and a media that ONLY mass distributes FEAR and more FEAR and then some more FEAR...and on top of that, even more FEAR...night after night after night after night. Most intelligent people, IMHO, sense deeply that something is terribly wrong. Terribly horribly wrong!! It's not the virus; nor the Pandemic...but something malevolent is taking place. We are being manipulated; we feel it like prison bars closing in around our human spirt. We cannot 'breathe' [to borrow from the times]; we are suffocating from something DEEP inside us that no CDC bearaucrat has even an INKLING of understanding. Life is not good living in FEAR. It is that simple. FDR was exactly correct...there is nothing to FEAR but FEAR itself; but that is exactly what present 'authorities' [the deep state one wonders] is instilling in us night after night...month after month now. FEAR is our life now; our total absconding from real LIFE; like snakes that hide beneath rocks, or insects that come out only in darkness. FEAR has become our government [the so called experts]. We cower from invisibility; no nazi jack boot this time; no monarchists guillotine; no dictator's army; NO...these the human spirit can, and has, stood up too. This is just an invisible 'nothingness'...blown up in our minds. It has always been the UNKNOWN that we fear the most. And this UNKOWN painted with monster's breath far beyond our senses can rationally manage. Guargantua is afoot. But, again, it is not this virus. It is our very government and those who were never ELECTED. Such power unleashed we never KNEW what hit us.

They could not have created so much fear if they had so much influence upon you and other Americans. They create fear because you have regard for them. When you think of them as scum your fear will vanish. You will do what is prudent and wise to save yourself and those you care for.
Fear is what kept the slaves from running away.
When you give up on fear you will become free.

So, yes, by all means, offer your book of hope. We DIRELY need that hope now. Things stand in the wing now that offer dangers beyond our imagination really; a loss of FREEDOM so complete...well, no American is ready for this I'm sure. In this country, we are bred on the idea of SELF AUTONOMY [as long as do no harm to others by intent]; it is our DNA so to speak. And now, almost overnight, that FREEDOM is being taken away from; at least the precursors of what perhaps peoples in other lands may have had to endure through history.

It cannot be too strong, if it can be taken away that easily. Americans have been very brave in the past. They need to put their bravery to good purpose, and not spend it for the welfare of the parasites who send them to their early graves. I hope my book will help to set their thinking clear and straight. It is there not as a religious text but as a supreme work of literature, that is, what will give proper direction to brave and worthy people of all backgrounds.

Minorities, women, those feeling left out for any reason...all celebrate; they cheer as cities burn; as some notion of a new day upon us; a day of their 'belonging' and new leadership...THEIR OWNERSHIP.
The story Midas comes to mind, where he was given the power to turn anything he touched to gold. Such a MIRAGE of hope is perhaps in the minds of all those who now seek to burn America down [fig]...but I think they will find that all they really attempt is their own starvation in the end [Midas starved because even the food he touched turned to gold].
ENVY and Hatred does that to people. Makes them short sighted. Burn down the world's greatest hope...by reason of the pimples upon it's face or the scars from it's growth. No one talks much about America's role fighting a horrible civil war to eradicate slavery from these shores...while most of the rest of the world was still embracing it's practices.

Come on, the civil war was about money, not slavery. The North was not paying the South enough for the cotton, and so the South could not industrialize and make their own mills. The South wanted to expand with slavery but the North would rather have civil war in order to maintain their economic superiority. The abolition of slavery was just an excuse. For after the war, the blacks were still treated badly for decades. They were used by the whites to genocide the native Americans - a most horrific and sad fact, glossed over. Completely inexcusable, among the darkest chapters of history.
Surely there has to be some karmic consequences for all that evil that was done.
Without strict adherence to truth, there can only be negative consequences.
And we have to be truthful in every regards, not pick and choose as suits.
Only the truth can purify, and save.

But a defense is no longer needed, for the 'courts' ears has already adjudged us...as a matter of mind control [manipulation] of those already bound in the frustrations of life...and this pandemic.
A friend of mine says this is all by God's plan in some way; that the forces that have gathered in such way, it can only be an act of something higher than we are. Perhaps she is right, I dunno.
I only know that America was unassailable; almost invulnerable. Yes, by reason of military might...but something far more too....that the people here BELIEVED in America. I'd like to think the world BELIEVED in America too; as a HOPE...something to emulate [for the most part]; something to at least respect as good neighbor in the world.

No doubt there was much good about America, as a place one could run away to from places of discrimination and subsequent lack of opportunism.
Unfortunately too many unscrupulous opportunists pursuing their own narrow and selfish ends, create a negative situation. Projecting hypocritically one's own sense of "goodness" for pure political gain, or academic laurels, spreading lies all around... a mass scale revision of priorities is required.
Hard working and honest people are deprived of representation. Bad money drives out good money.

What rises now is hatred, pure and true; vehemence taken to nth degree...not by our enemies, but by our very children. No society can withstand that loss of faith in it's people. And our children, especially the females...I see no way we can survive for long without a major counter force to fight back this 'invasion' of the American MIND.

Well, the white males have to learn a lot. Like being really nice to their own women and children to begin with. Being equal with them, and giving them due respect while being aware of their needs. Failure on the family front leads to larger failures. I hope my book will help in this regard. It will provide a genuine and absolute superiority to the male, while giving equal such status to the female. An elevation of standards thus for both genders.

So, best of Luck Arindam. I hope many read your book and are enlightened to a better way and somehow we are allowed to survive this most darkest of times that...well, it looks like we are about to enter.

They BETTER read my book, with my explanatory annotations. And then, better themselves.

I Hope to God I'm wrong for all our sakes; especially those who now try to burn us down. Perhaps it is their souls that might be judged the harshest...for destroying HOPE itself in our hearts. America was a GOOD thing in the world despite any faults that have magnified a zillions times over now. Perhaps Pimples compared to world malady of history; but now, the Everest of Evil in the eyes so enraged [by forces they do not even see].

Not so fast - America was a land of slavery and genocide, racism and bigotry. Most horrible evils have been done in the USA. Recently USA has reduced many millions of hapless people in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq and Libya to ruin. That is a terrible crime. As a result many Christians in those areas are suffering terribly. Under the influence of Rand and Reagan, your priorities are revolting, as they are about selfishness and greed, causing massive pollution and sickness in mind and body.
You must wake up to the harm that is done, without evasion. You are personally not guilty, like most whites. But there is such as thing as collective responsibility. It will not work if truth - full and absolute - is evaded. While there is every reason to uphold law and order, there is the need to let all know that the powers that be are of sound disposition.

Good luck to you my friend.

Thanks, and do keep well, Tooly.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

Arindam Banerjee

2020-09-23 04:33:28 UTC

Puzzling, you show contempt for social media, but you end up hailing Trump as your saviour. Trump would not have had a snowball's chance in heaven without the social media. In my mind there is no such thing as a troll in social media. There are only small and closed minds who seek comfort with what they know. Social media, added to the worthy elements of the commercial media, remains the major source of information apart from the grapevine.